MidnightWatcher – Prophecy in Motion

Turker, “u Christians just don’t get it how could Jesus b God ,God is eternal ,immortal cannot die ,Jesus clearly died and clearly not immortal”

Jesus rose from the grave and lives. Mohammed is still six-feet-under and is as dead as a door nail.

Turker, “He Neva claims to be God I challenge u to show me one verse were he says I am God just one please,if cannot then u r a liar”

Jesus didn’t have to say “I am God.” He demonstrated it. Let’s dig into this a bit more from a Biblical perspective.

Many verses forbid worshiping men, angels, or any created thing.

* Acts 10:25,26 – Cornelius fell down to worship Peter. Peter forbade it saying that he himself was just a man. God deserves worship, but men do not. (Cf. Acts 12:20-23; 14:8-18.)
* Revelation 22:8,9; 19:10 – John sought to worship the angel, but the angel forbade it because he was a “fellow servant.” “Worship God.”
* Romans 1:25 – People who worship and serve created things, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God.
* To worship any created thing – whether man, angel, heavenly body, or some other object in nature (mountain, ocean, etc.) – constitutes idolatry. [In other words, worshiping anything or anyone other than YHWH the God of the Bible is idoloatry].

Only the true God deserves to be worshipped.

* Matthew 4:9,10 – Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.
* Revelation 9:20 – Idolatry is forbidden because it constitutes worship of someone other than God (Exodus 20:3-6; Deuteronomy 6:13-15; Revelation 14:9-11). [See also Exodus 34:14]
* Note: proskunew is forbidden when used for obeisance to men from a spiritual or religious motivation or purpose. The word is sometimes (but rarely) used in the New Testament non-religiously to refer to bowing in obeisance to a king, master, or other person in authority (see Matthew 18:26 – this usage is more common in the Old Testament).
* When used for religious honor, however, worship is forbidden toward any except God. In this sense, “worship” is like “lord,” “father,” “master,” etc. The words may be acceptably used for earthly, physical relationships (Ephesians 6:1-9; Colossians 3:21,22), but we are forbidden to use such as religious honor to men or created things (Matthew 23:8-12). [On Revelation 3:9, cf. to 1 Corinthians 14:25]
* The concept of Deity distinguishes the Creator from the creature. Things which are created do not have the unique characteristics of God, do not do the unique works of God, and therefore should not be addressed by the unique names of God nor should they be worshipped.

But Jesus received the unique worship God deserves.

He was often worshipped while He appeared on earth before His resurrection.

* Matthew 8:2 – A leper came and worshipped Jesus. [9:18; 15:25; Mark 5:6]
* Matthew 14:33 – After Jesus had calmed the storm, the disciples worshipped Him saying He was the Son of God.
* John 9:38 – After Jesus had healed the blind man, He revealed Himself to be the Son of God (v35). The man said he believed, and he worshipped Jesus.
* Note that such religious worship would have been blasphemy and should have been forbidden as it was in the case of Peter, the angel, etc., if Jesus had been just a man on earth.

Created beings also worship Him after His resurrection.

* Matthew 28:9,17 – After His resurrection, His disciples worshipped Him. [Cf. John 20:28,29]
* Luke 24:52 – Even after He had ascended back to heaven, they worshipped Him.
* Hebrews 1:6 – Angels are instructed by God to worship Jesus.
* Note that men were rebuked for worshipping men, angels, or created beings, but they were never rebuked for worshipping Jesus. Angels are even instructed by the Father to worship Jesus. The context of the above passages cannot fit the idea of obeisance to an earthly king or ruler. They refer to honoring Jesus as a religious authority – the very thing forbidden when offered to Peter, angels, etc.
* Hence, Jesus accepted worship as an act of religious honor. The Scriptures, including Jesus’ own teachings, would absolutely forbid this unless He possesses true Deity. [1]

Here is sound logic that we can easily deduce from Biblical Scripture. If Biblical Scripture explains that only God can be worshiped, and if Biblical Scripture forbids the worship of any created being or object, and if Biblical Scripture does not forbid or rebuke the worship of Jesus Christ, then Jesus Christ is therefore uncreated and is God in the flesh, according to Biblical Scripture.

So did Jesus say, “I am God”? Not with those exact words. To do so could have gotten Him killed before the appointed time. But when the time was right, He began to affirm His identity and His purpose:

Exodus 3:13-14, “Moses said to God, ‘Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?’ God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.'”

John 8:58, “Jesus said to them, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.‘”

Luke 22:66-71, “As soon as it was day, the elders of the people, both chief priests and scribes, came together and led Him into their council, saying, “If You are the Christ, tell us.” But He said to them, “If I tell you, you will by no means believe. “And if I also ask [you], you will by no means answer Me or let [Me] go. “Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of God.” Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You [rightly] say that I am.” And they said, “What further testimony do we need? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth.”

Also see Matthew 9:2 — Jesus forgave sins, something that only God can do. John 11:43-44 and Luke 8:54 — Jesus gave life to the dead, something that only God can do. Luke 8:22-25 — Jesus controlled the forces of nature with a single command, something that only God can do.

Turker, “jesus clearly in d bible yas his Father is God clearly ,u c u pray to Jesus but Jesus clearly prays to god read d bible ,wat is God doin prayin to God wats goin on”

They have always been in complete communion with one another, even during the incarnation and the Hypostatic Union.

John 10:30, “I and My Father are one.”

You have been fed a lot of deception and half truths, Turker, and the problem with half truths is that they’re a complete lie.

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