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Worst Drought in 50 Years: 400,000 Without Drinking Water in China, Yangtze River Too Dry for Ships
By Tom McGregor – “The longest waterway in Asia, the Yangtze River, which is China’s most important shipping route, has been shut down by the worst drought in 50 years that has kept cargo ships stranded and 400,000 people without drinking water.
The Daily Telegraph of London reports that, ‘water-levels have sunk as low as 10 ft. in the main thoroughfare of the 3,900 mile long river that stretches from the glaciers of the Tibetan plateaus to the coastal city of Shanghai.’
The Yangtze River basin is home to 1/3 of China’s population and is responsible for 40 percent of the nation’s economic growth.” Read more.
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A China with 30,000,000 men unable to find wives because of the shortage due to lack of women due to the 1 child policy along with hunger and a thirsty China is a very dangerous China – The 200,000,000 million man army may well soon be a possible and even a likely threat
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Willard, I see Rev 9 differently. The “200,000,000 man army” idea comes from Rev 9:16, which reads The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. No where is it indicated scripturally that they come from China–that is deduced, I suppose, because of the population of China. Why don’t people say they’re ‘Indians’ (from India) instead? They have over 200,000,000 men.
The passage is in the context of the Sixth Trumpet, which when sounded, releases four angels (read ‘fallen angels’ or ‘demons’) who kill 1/3 of mankind (v15). The passage also attributes the deaths to the horseman in v.18, who apparently ride at the behest of the angels.
Now, assuming this hasn’t happened yet, are 1/3 of the ENTIRETY of mankind (that would be over 2 billion at the current moment) going to literally die before Christ returns, or as I currently see it, in the next few years (or decades) due to a literal army of 200 million? I don’t think that’s what this passage or Rev 9 is saying.
IMO, what the 5th and 6th trumpet concern is the advent of Islam in the 7th Century and its conquering of 1/3 of the Roman Empire. As I see it:
v.1 5th Angel blows trumpet: Star falls from heaven [Satan], given key to bottomless pit [hell]
v.2 Satan opens pit [hell, and cave where Mohammad met angel] and smoke comes out [supposed revelation–Quran/Haddith]
v.3 Out of smoke, locusts [they literally come from desert, Mecca in desert, these rep. demons], given power [to demonize people]
v.4 Don’t hurt grass [Muslims, for the most part, didn’t destroy ag and landscape, only killed people, or forced them to convert] Seal of God [the saved]
… I don’t have time to finish, but as I said months ago, I am working on a verse by verse commentary for which I would love to have everybody’s feedback. I’ll publicize it when its a little further along.
The Sixth Trumpet likewise catalog’s the development of Islam and its overtaking of the eastern third of what the Roman Empire was at its height.
I think right now, the Seventh (and last) Trumpet is being raised to the lips of the angel.
At this point, I don’t see things exactly like ICA, but very close. Maybe as I study further I will conclude he is correct on items where we differ. I am not into protecting some sort of turf or belief system–I just want to understand what the bible is saying, and no more. And I’m confident everyone hanging around here agrees.
Blessings on all,
Kurt
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Kurt – I agree totally with your comments on this my feelings exactly when you say because neither am I but this one I see a bit differently that some — I am not into protecting some sort of turf or belief system–I just want to understand what the bible is saying, and no more. And I’m confident everyone hanging around here agrees.
But I lean to this as being literal – if it is not China it could possibly be the Islamic hordes East of the Euphrates into Gerogia Black sea area etc. Buy my belief and reasons for this is that it is China because??
1) They certainly can put together an army of this size partly due to their one child policy over the last 25 years or so, but there are other reasons as well
2) The color John is speaking about – firery red, blue and yellow are all colors you see through out China historically and currently – the Red Army, red is every where in China even wedding dresses, blue is the dress of the common people again through out CHina so also is yellow the color of their race and yellow also is a color one sees through out China. When you travel through China you see these colors on signage, billboards decor in resuraunts, dress, in their native shows, hotels etc.
3) The weaponry mentioned fire smoke and sulfir seem to me to be modern day weaponry and China is known to have invented fire works and if I recall gun powder as well – also the mens faces like lions if you back into their history this is what they did appeared to look like as warriors riding their horses
I am pretty much basicaly a literalist – my fourth reason is a bit more to explain but it is as follows
4) Rev 1:20 referes to angels as stars! 9:1 also referes to an angel as a star who was given a key to the shaft of the Abyss. The 6th angel who I would consider the main angel or the large star so to speak had the trumpet !! He was instructed to release the 4 angels THAT WERE BOUND and kept ready for THE HOUR – THE DAY – THE MONTH and THE YEAR
Rev 9:14 It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” Rev 9:15 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third c of mankind. Rev 9:16 The number of the mounted troops was two hundred million. I heard their number
Mao became founded modern day China one year after Israel became a nation in 1949 ( the hinge pin is Israel) – it was his ruthless policies at the expence or cost of tens of millions of his own people lives that brought China eventually into the modern day age and manufacturing power house that we see today. Or UNBOUND China.
The below link is what I find astonding (maybe I am wrong) but some how I do not think so but I will agree it still is a wait and see. The flag of China has one large star (dipicting the angel with the trumpet and four smaller stars the four angels that were bound at the great river the Euphrates. Every day we see Chinas military strength increase – with stealth fighter, aircraft carries – they were the first ones that wanted access to the downed heliocopter with secret technology in Pakistan – they are buying up commodities around the world, iron, rare earth minerals, oil, gas, gold, silver, etc. etc.
Their Naval Ensign flag is REd, Yellow and Blue – their nations flag is Red and Yeloow with the stars I mentioned above
http://www.flags.net/CHIN.htm
One of their generals once stated that they could afford to lose 600 million people and still have 600 million people left over to repopulate the world. What we see China doing today is exactly what their military phlosphy dictates – say one thing do another – war by a thousand cuts – they have almost all of the worlds money – they are mapping our power plants systems, oil refineries, communication systems all through the internet – their number one priority is cyber espionage – just my thoughts and what I believe that we are seeing
I am a stone importer importing stone from around the world and everyday Sea Cans
arriving at my doors and our shores. I have had this feeling almost a premotion that one day we will see ship loads and ship loads of sea cans arriving at our shores but they will be filled with militay weapons and tens of thousands of troops My question is what would happen shoud the US default on all of the money that it has borrowed from China – would they come to collect ?? Below is a speach understood to have been given by a Chinease General
http://www.rense.com/general85/China'sPlanToConquer.htm
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ICA – how do I grab a short quote from another and get it into my reply – can’t figure it out??
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Willard – “ICA – how do I grab a short quote from another and get it into my reply – can’t figure it out??”
The easiest way is to just copy and paste like I did above. Otherwise, you can click “Quote” in the message you want to quote from and manually remove the text aside from the portion you wish to quote specifically.
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Willard, very interesting post!!
What will China be doing as it marches across Asia with 200 million men? Whatever they were doing, couldn’t they just accomplish with nuclear weapons?
And as I understand it, China marching west to Armageddon is a “Western Paradigm” construct–all the nations of the world gathered for last great battle, blood flowing 6′ deep for 200 miles…is all that really to be literally interpreted?
I’m not asking if the prophecies are real or not, just whether they (the vast majority) are LITERAL or SYMBOLIC?
And if it 200 million Chinese are eventually on the way to the ME, why is it not mentioned in other passages of scripture? Why is the entirety of what we see MUSLIM nations?
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Kurt – I admit that I certainly do not have all of the answers and everything may not be as literal as I suggest – but I find it difficult to see Revelations as historical – although there may be parts of it that could be understood as historical. Still a lot of unknowns and a lot of unanswered questions in my mind and sometimes it just seem to get very confusing to say the least.
The 200 million man army may not all be headed to the ME – with 200 million they could pretty much take over the entire world – 50 million to NA – 50 million to South Asia and Australia 75 million to Europe 25 million to the ME – I am just suggesting and guesstimating thoughts here ??? Rev 8 and 9 are chapters about thirds of destruction – Something interesting is that this 200,000,000 man army will also kill one third on mankind – China with just under 1.4 billion people not counting Chinese people around the word is also about 1/3 of the words population??
If a 200,000,000 man army headed to the ME along with the armies of the other nations which would add additional millions maybe the blood would not be 6′ deep and flowing but it would almost be feasible to have dead bodies and human flesh piled up to some fairly great depths – but I do agree with you Kurt that it does seem to be almost impossible from a human perspective. The big question also becomes what about logistics, food, water, transportation, space for movement, fuel for weapons for armies of this size. Also seems impossible does it not.
But than we also know Chinas land is so polluted that it is almost at the end of sustaining a decent way of living thanks to the western world send over their factories so pollution problems and issue would not have to be dealt with back home. China wants and needs space, water, women, oil, timber, minerals, steel, and the list goes on. I read sometime ago in a National Geographic that bees and insects that pollinate are so few that the Chinese have to pollinate fruit trees by hand in some areas of China.
Also I have to agree that the bible does not suggest at least not clearly in many places about this 200,000,000 man army. Dan 11:44 tells us that the A/C will receive report’s from the east and the north that will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. This also seems to indicate that A/C may not have the entire world under his control at least not the North and the east??
Other indirect references that may point to China’s man power playing a major part in this without naming it is that the destruction that the bible talks about will have to involve millions of armed people.
Daniel said – in 12:1 ………that there will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then………. Daniel even fainted and fell to the ground with what he seen it was so beyond comprehension with what he seen.
We have Daniel, Joel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and others that speak of a war like the world has never seen or could even imagine. Even Christ said that if he did not cut the days short no one and nothing would survive
Mt 24:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened
I think we will all soon see many things that the human mind could not have imagined just a few years ago. Things seem to be head for a final conclusion on an ever increasing pace.
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Hey, as I reread my post, my tone was a little intense–sorry. I don’t mean to ask in an accusing way; I respect your different perspective and the many insights you have unleashed. But certainly those questions occur to me as I think about 200 million men coming across the Euphrates. And I guess the Chinese could be distributed around the world, but certainly the scripture specifically references the Euphrates River.
And the wine press was trodden outside the city, and blood came out from the wine press, up to the horses’ bridles, for a distance of two hundred miles. Rev 14:20
Willard, I was thinking today about doing a calculation–5 quarts of blood per body, 6′ deep (horse’s bridle), 200 miles…if it were 1′ wide, how many people would that be? And then 2′ wide, and so on. I just don’t think its feasible. It HAS to mean something else, i.e., it has to be symbolic, or its just not true. I’m not saying I understand it yet, mind you, but I believe it, somehow, because God’s Word is true, though every man is a liar.
Amen.
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That is one heck of a calculation Kurt and I know what you are asking and thinking and that certainly is a lot of blood – almost like Noahs flood where did all the water come from and than where did it all go which is another question for another day –
I never take offense – I value your opinions because they are good ones and look forward to your replies – and your insites along with others. There certainly is a lot of symbalism in Rev but even symbalism must connect with real fact situations other wise we would not understand the symbalism.
We are all on a search – this is the only way we can learn – I believe that it is the debate that keeps Gods word the living word – I think this is how he delibertly wrote it to keep us all interested and searching for the answers and the truth – its the what ifs and is God telling us this that keeps us seeking – when I look back over my notes over the many years of study I find many paths taken to uncover his truths and there are still some paths that I need to walk down in my search – it will not end until that glorious day that we see him face to face – and that is my goal and I know it is yours as well to see him face to face
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Amen, Willard.
I do have to address the question of water and Noah’s flood, however. When people ask that (I know you’re not), I tend to stare at them for a few seconds, in the way that someone observes another with an IQ significantly south of 100, and then ask “Have you ever looked at picture of the Earth from space??”
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My brother has been involved in the creation debate for many years even to the point of helping build a small creation museum in western Canada – being an old oil field hand and drilling wells across the world finding fossils sea shells at depths of many thousands of feet – next to prophecy I have studied this debate for many years – Just one thing I would like to mention about this flood – I used to work up in the Canadian Artic out on the tundra were the so called perma frost was any wheres from several hundred to a 1000 feet thick and every time with out fail when we made the transition from permafrost to terra firma (real dirt) we would get green wood and leaves from trees that looked like they were just chopped down from a living forest today. Forty years ago I questioned it but never understood it until years later click! click! “Noahs Flood”
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